If you wanted to bull rush them INTO the BASE of the cliff, the answer is clearly "No", as the cliff base clearly occupies those squares.īull rushing them UP or DOWN the side of the cliff, while tricky, could theorhetically be possible, as you are pushing them into unoccupied squares on difficult terrain, but at some point the angle of slope would determine whether or not it would be possible, and/or require a climb check to complete if you have enough of a turn remaining to complete both actions.Īs to the save, a previous answerer mentioned making a Climb check to save from falling. Inadvisable for most, but their own discretion is the only limiter in this case. To further illustrate this point, when you make a jump check, you have to jump into the air, and any character can most clearly jump off of a cliff at their own discretion. Mid-air is counted as "unoccupied" for the purpose of determining whether or not you may move into a space. There are no invisible "video game" walls in an RPG, unless you put them there.ĭoing so safely may not be an option for most characters however, saftey wasn't the question. The following post asks the same question, but gets no official response. In these posts on the Paizo forums the assumption certainly seems to be that it can be used to push an enemy off a cliff, but there is no official backing.
In the case where a character is bull rushed more than one square away from the edge, I probably wouldn't even allow the climb check (there's nothing to hold on to). It's much easier to catch yourself on a slope (DC = slope's DC + 10). The climb skill specifies the check for catching yourself when falling:Ĭatch Yourself When Falling: It's practically impossible to catch yourself on a wall while falling, yet if you wish to attempt such a difficult task, you can make a Climb check (DC = wall's DC + 20) to do so. In no way does it obstruct your movement into that square, it just causes you to keep moving once there :-). It is in fact a lack of anything in that square, and in the squares theoretically below it. You cannot bull rush a creature into a square that is occupied by a solid object or obstacle.Ī cliff (down) does not occupy the square they are being pushed to.
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